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When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
A. x = 4
B. x = 0
C. x > 4
D. x <= 4
E. x < 0
Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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03 May 2012, 11:04
nkimidi7y wrote:
When is |x-4| = 4-x?
A. x=4
B. x=0
C. x>4
D. x<=4
E. x< 0
I could answer this question by plugging in some numbers.
But how tự i prove this using algebra?
Absolute value properties:
When \(x\leq{0}\) then \(|x|=-x\), or more generally when \(some \ expression\leq{0}\) then \(|some \ expression|={-(some \ expression)}\). For example: \(|-5|=5=-(-5)\);
When \(x\geq{0}\) then \(|x|=x\), or more generally when \(some \ expression\geq{0}\) then \(|some \ expression|={some \ expression}\). For example: \(|5|=5\);
So, \(|x-4|=4-x=-(x-4)\) đồ sộ be true should be that \(x-4\leq{0}\) --> \(x\leq{4}\).
Answer: D.
Hope it's clear.
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Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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08 May 2012, 09:57
nkimidi7y wrote:
4-x is always >=0.
So x is always <=4.
Is this what you have meant?
|x-4| = 4-x
1) |x-4| is ALWAYS none negative.
so , 4-x must be also more or equal đồ sộ zero
4-x>=0
x<=4
2) if x<4 , then 4-x=4-x
if x>=4 x-4=4-x x=4
so x <= 4
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Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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03 May 2012, 14:00
4-x is always >=0.
So x is always <=4.
Is this what you have meant?
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Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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28 Oct 2012, 01:56
Bunuel wrote:
nkimidi7y wrote:
When is |x-4| = 4-x?
A. x=4
B. x=0
C. x>4
D. x<=4
E. x< 0
I could answer this question by plugging in some numbers.
But how tự i prove this using algebra?
Absolute value properties:
When \(x\leq{0}\) then \(|x|=-x\), or more generally when \(some \ expression\leq{0}\) then \(|some \ expression|\leq{-(some \ expression)}\). For example: \(|-5|=5=-(-5)\);
When \(x\geq{0}\) then \(|x|=x\), or more generally when \(some \ expression\geq{0}\) then \(|some \ expression|\leq{some \ expression}\). For example: \(|5|=5\);
So, \(|x-4|=4-x=-(x-4)\) đồ sộ be true should be that \(x-4\leq{0}\) --> \(x\leq{4}\).
Answer: D.
Hope it's clear.
Hi Bunuel
I am trying đồ sộ understand theese two properties, but how is it possible đồ sộ have |X|=-X, in order that absolute value has đồ sộ be always positive?
Could you please provide u an explaination in more details?
Thanks in advance
Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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29 Oct 2012, 01:56
mario1987 wrote:
Bunuel wrote:
nkimidi7y wrote:
When is |x-4| = 4-x?
A. x=4
B. x=0
C. x>4
D. x<=4
E. x< 0
I could answer this question by plugging in some numbers.
But how tự i prove this using algebra?
Absolute value properties:
When \(x\leq{0}\) then \(|x|=-x\), or more generally when \(some \ expression\leq{0}\) then \(|some \ expression|\leq{-(some \ expression)}\). For example: \(|-5|=5=-(-5)\);
When \(x\geq{0}\) then \(|x|=x\), or more generally when \(some \ expression\geq{0}\) then \(|some \ expression|\leq{some \ expression}\). For example: \(|5|=5\);
So, \(|x-4|=4-x=-(x-4)\) đồ sộ be true should be that \(x-4\leq{0}\) --> \(x\leq{4}\).
Answer: D.
Hope it's clear.
Hi Bunuel
I am trying đồ sộ understand theese two properties, but how is it possible đồ sộ have |X|=-X, in order that absolute value has đồ sộ be always positive?
Could you please provide u an explaination in more details?
Thanks in advance
When \(x\leq{0}\), for example when \(x=-5\), then \(|-5|=5=-(-5)\) sánh \(|x|=-x\) (|negative |=-(negative)=positive).
For more kiểm tra Absolute Value chapter of Math book:
math-absolute-value-modulus-86462.html
Hope it helps.
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Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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05 Dec 2012, 03:51
|x-4| = 4-x
Absolute values are always positive or greater kêu ca 0.
So, 4-x >= 0 ==> x <= 4
Answer: D
There is no need đồ sộ test values.
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Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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06 Jan 2013, 13:26
Hi brunel,
You said some expression when it is > = 0 then l some espression l <= some expression.
In this case how tự i know X-4 is >= 0
Thanks!
Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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07 Jan 2013, 02:37
LiquidGrave wrote:
Hi brunel,
You said some expression when it is > = 0 then l some espression l <= some expression.
In this case how tự i know X-4 is >= 0
Thanks!
We have that \(|x-4|=4-x=-(x-4)\). So, \(|some \ expression|\leq{-(some \ expression)}\), thus \(x-4\leq{0}\) --> \(x\leq{4}\).
Hope it's clear.
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Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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10 Feb 2013, 05:14
Why not E?
If i am not mistaken when x<0, then |x-1| = x-1?
Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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10 Feb 2013, 05:21
Victorlp89 wrote:
Why not E?
If i am not mistaken when x<0, then |x-1| = x-1?
First of all we have |x-4| = 4-x not |x-1| = x-1.
Next, |x-1| = x-1 for \(x\geq{1}\).
If \(x\leq{1}\), then \(|x-1|=-(x-1)=1-x\)
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Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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13 Mar 2013, 13:45
how come all of a sudden the answer has inequalities when the question only had equal signs? that's the part i dont understand
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Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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14 Mar 2013, 12:19
Absolute value of any number or expression must be positive.
If (x-4) is positive then |x-4| is also positive
What if x-4 is negative? Since the absolute value must be positive, |x-4| would be equal đồ sộ -(x-4)=4-x.
Right?
We know that x-4 would have đồ sộ be negative for the equation in question đồ sộ be true. This would imply that x would have đồ sộ be a small positive number smaller kêu ca 4 or a negative number. You can take examples đồ sộ test that.
x=-14 (x-4)=-ve
x=1, x-4=-3 -ve
x=4, implies x-4=0 and 4-x=0. Thus, the equation is satisfied.
Hence, d is the answer.
Coming đồ sộ your question, if a question đơn hàng with equality it also indirectly đơn hàng with inequality. If you say the equation is satisfied when x=0,x=4,x=-5 and sánh on, it also implies that the equation is true for all values of x less kêu ca or equal đồ sộ 4.
An equation exists only at certain points. We have đồ sộ find those points and if those points range over a large space, the easiest way would be express it as inequality.
Note: An equality question can have answers which might be expressed as inequalities. There is nothing wrong with it.
Hope it helps! Let u know if I can help you any further.
dhlee922 wrote:
how come all of a sudden the answer has inequalities when the question only had equal signs? that's the part i dont understand
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Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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14 Mar 2013, 16:34
thanks Kris. that does help. i guess my follow up question would be, is there a way đồ sộ solve it algebraically rather kêu ca plugging in numbers?
Kris01 wrote:
Absolute value of any number or expression must be positive.
If (x-4) is positive then |x-4| is also positive
What if x-4 is negative? Since the absolute value must be positive, |x-4| would be equal đồ sộ -(x-4)=4-x.
Right?
We know that x-4 would have đồ sộ be negative for the equation in question đồ sộ be true. This would imply that x would have đồ sộ be a small positive number smaller kêu ca 4 or a negative number. You can take examples đồ sộ test that.
x=-14 (x-4)=-ve
x=1, x-4=-3 -ve
x=4, implies x-4=0 and 4-x=0. Thus, the equation is satisfied.
Hence, d is the answer.
Coming đồ sộ your question, if a question đơn hàng with equality it also indirectly đơn hàng with inequality. If you say the equation is satisfied when x=0,x=4,x=-5 and sánh on, it also implies that the equation is true for all values of x less kêu ca or equal đồ sộ 4.
An equation exists only at certain points. We have đồ sộ find those points and if those points range over a large space, the easiest way would be express it as inequality.
Note: An equality question can have answers which might be expressed as inequalities. There is nothing wrong with it.
Hope it helps! Let u know if I can help you any further.
dhlee922 wrote:
how come all of a sudden the answer has inequalities when the question only had equal signs? that's the part i dont understand
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Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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14 Mar 2013, 17:19
When is |x-4| = 4-x?
Critical Values method:
The Critical Value here is x=4 (we make the absolute value term equal đồ sộ zero), sánh we have this conditions đồ sộ check:
1) x<4: -(x-4)=4-x ---> x-4=x-4 ---> true for all values of x, but only when x<4 the initial condition is satisfied ---> true always that x<4
2) x=4: 0=0 ---> this is true always that x=4
3) x>4: x-4=4-x ---> 2x=8 ---> x=4 ---> initial condition of x>4 is not met
Therefore, there is a solution only when: x<=4
Solution D
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Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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15 Mar 2013, 10:26
As Johnwesley said, for |x-4|=4-x, s-4 should be negative or equal đồ sộ 0.
i.e. x-4<=0
Hence, x<=4
[quote="dhlee922"]thanks Kris. that does help. i guess my follow up question would be, is there a way đồ sộ solve it algebraically rather kêu ca plugging in numbers?
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Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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09 Aug 2013, 21:24
I solved it in this way.
When is |x-4| = 4-x?
Choice A: X=4, it is true but X cannot be always 4
Choice B: X=0, it is also true, but X cannot be always 0
Choice C: X>4, it is false, for e.g. X=6, then one side of equation is 2 and the other side is -2
Choice D: X<=4, this choice encapsulate Choice A, Choice B and for all other conditions and is true for above said equation. Hence the answer choice is D.
It took only 1min đồ sộ solve this problem with above method.
A. x=4
B. x=0
C. x>4
D. x<=4
E. x< 0
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Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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19 Dec 2013, 04:14
Bunuel wrote:
Victorlp89 wrote:
Why not E?
If i am not mistaken when x<0, then |x-1| = x-1?
First of all we have |x-4| = 4-x not |x-1| = x-1.
Next, |x-1| = x-1 for \(x\geq{1}\).
If \(x\leq{1}\), then \(|x-1|=-(x-1)=1-x\)
Hi Bunuel,
Sinetunes you can manipulate say |x-4|=|-(-x+4)|=|4-x| is what you'll kết thúc up with.
So then how tự you solve when you have |4-x| = 4-x?
Is this property correct or what are its limitations?
Thanks
J
Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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19 Dec 2013, 04:32
jlgdr wrote:
Bunuel wrote:
Victorlp89 wrote:
Why not E?
If i am not mistaken when x<0, then |x-1| = x-1?
First of all we have |x-4| = 4-x not |x-1| = x-1.
Next, |x-1| = x-1 for \(x\geq{1}\).
If \(x\leq{1}\), then \(|x-1|=-(x-1)=1-x\)
Hi Bunuel,
Sinetunes you can manipulate say |x-4|=|-(-x+4)|=|4-x| is what you'll kết thúc up with.
So then how tự you solve when you have |4-x| = 4-x?
Is this property correct or what are its limitations?
Thanks
J
\(|4-x| = 4-x\) --> \(4-x\geq{0}\) --> \(x\leq{4}\).
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Re: When is |x - 4| = 4 - x?
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19 Dec 2013, 05:54
Silly u, thats correct
Thanks
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